Meeting Minutes for April 8, 2008

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Dates for WWCIC meetings for 2008   Meetings will be held on the 2nd Tuesday like always, with no meeting in August  .  The current location for regular meetings is the Washington State Patrol Office in Bellevue.

Business Reports

Chairman’s opening comments: Chairman George Bisso called the meeting to order at 9:37 am. Introductions were made around the tables. Attendance today: 11.

Adoption of draft minutes of last meeting: Meeting minutes for the February meeting were approved as drafted.

Secretary-Treasurer Finance and Correspondence Reports: Starting balance in Checking $292.13, deposit of $40.00 in member dues, ending balance of $332.13. Starting balance in Savings $1882.90, interest not posted yet for the month, ending balance of $1882.90.

Committee Reports

Technical Committee Report:  Suggestions for technical presentations at meetings are always welcome. Snohomish County Department of Emergency Management will be demonstrating their Emergency Communications Vehicle at our May meeting. An RFId technology presentation is being worked on. (OPEN)

Web Site Report:  Nothing new and no problems noted. (OPEN)

FCC Report: The FCC so far in 2008 has issued 3 million dollars in fines for unsolicited FAXs, it appears that many of the cited business are treating the citations and fines as just a business expense.

The Seattle (Kirkland) office has a new engineer, Puneet Singh, he worked previously for the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard (PSNS).

There has been an increase in enforcement of the rules in regard to the manufacture and importation of linear amplifiers operating in the (CB) 27 MHz range.

There also has been increased activity around uncertified transmitters for low power (50-100w) FM broadcast stations. Many lack the proper filtering circuitry.  Hoquiam PD experienced interference to their speed measuring devices (RADAR) from a local non-profit low power transmitter that had just come back from factory service. Considerable energy was emitted up into the microwave region (24 & 54 GHz).

CATV distribution amps in buildings such as apartment complexes continue to be a problem for wireless services.

One of the broadcast traffic channels in the Seattle area is getting interfered with what appears to be rebroadcast of news/weather reports.  (Open)

 

Old Business

150/450 MHz IX: Several commercial 460 MHz systems experienced interference from land surveyors’ equipment. The FCC made contact with the surveyors to have them switch channels or cease operation. One is still out there but the signal is weak/distant making it difficult to find.

Several occurrences of interference to business radios systems in the 450-470 MHz spectrum were resolved. The FCC located the source of one, the same that was identified several months ago transmitting data constantly on a shared channel, in this instance it was running as a carrier squelch operated repeater. The operator of the system appears to have been misinformed by the provider of the equipment as to how it could and should be used.

A private company and several broadcasters reported interference to their traffic reporting channels. The source has not been located yet. (OPEN)

FRS Issues: Nothing new to report. (OPEN)

700 MHz Planning & Meetings: The new plan has been submitted April 1, no major comments expected during the comment period ending April, 11. The plan is available on the region 43 web site. Meeting schedule has been changed to every other (odd) month.

Due to their size of systems, Pierce and Metro Transit will have to include several interoperability channels, Community Transit has a smaller system and will not be required to include interoperability  channels. A useful interactive spreadsheet for identifying interoperability channel requirements, center channel frequencies based on bandwidth and channel plan is available on the region 43 web site. The 700 MHz web sites are www.region43.org for Washington State, and www.region35.org, for Oregon. (OPEN)

800 MHz IX and Nextel issues: The FCC is awaiting replies to a Request for Information on wave 4 rebanding border area.

The City of Seattle is finalizing contracts in preparation to negotiate with Nextel on SCD costs. Using the suggested times in the on the SCD forms, the City has estimated over 7500 man hours to change out mobiles and portables that need to be replaced, this does not include reprogramming or administrative costs.

The rebanding deadline is still June 30 without a waiver for non border areas. (OPEN)

Technical Seminars at WWCIC Meetings:  Suggestions for future seminars are welcome. Due to illness and a tight schedule the presentation on RFId for this meeting was canceled. (OPEN)

XM and Sirius Satellite Radio News: The U.S. Department of Justice has approved the merger of XM and Sirius. The National Association of Broadcasters continue to raise objections. The FCC still has to approve the changes. (OPEN)

APCO business or reports and general frequency coordination news: Washington Chapter Summer Training Conference June 25-27, 2008, in Wenachee, WA.

The Washington State Interoperability Executive Committee (SIEC) is proposing a ROIP standard that will require the users to use a high end IP gateway by also requiring VOIP be included. This is viewed by some as contrary to the intent of interoperability since it is requiring them to use equipment that is over and above what is needed and they are giving in to manufacture lobbying. The standards had been tabled due to the volume of disagreement but there is indications the SIEC will be discussing and voting on this at an April 17 meeting.  http://www.apcowa.org/  (OPEN)

License-free or Spread-Spectrum technology issues: As more and more departments from IT to manufacturing implement License-free and Spread-Spectrum hardware the instances of interference have gone up. The FCC has issued fines totaling in the millions of dollars to organizations that are importing non-certified equipment.  A lot of  this equipment has problems with out of band emissions.

The Boeing Co. has established internal protocols to coordinate this type of equipment as part of their overall spectrum management. Because there is so much wireless technology in use they even have their own wireless symposiums. They also have a tip line that anyone can call anonymously to report unusual occurrences or suspected improper operations of wireless devices. Case reports run from interference between data networks, personal wireless headsets interrupting crane operation to employee owned low power FM transmitters for playing a personal audio device through a stereo receiver shutting down industrial robots.  (OPEN)

4.9 GHz: Boeing is continuing to transition some 5.7GHz systems to 4.9GHz in their Everett facility. (OPEN)

Amateur radio activity: Attendance at the 2008 Communications Academy held at the South Seattle Community College, April 5 and 6 was noticeably down. It’s not known if a change in location, fuel prices, weather and other logistics were factors in the reduced participation.  (OPEN)

New Business

Joint WCTC/WWCIC Meeting

We will be hosting another meeting Wednesday June 11. We need to set the agenda by May.

Topic suggestions of RFid issues, (125KHz tag readers), 700MHz realignment in Canada, plans for the 2010 Olympics, 220MHZ use in Canada, 800MHz rebanding.

Items of Information

The sustained low snow levels experienced this winter in the state has several agencies and groups evaluating their need for better snow travel resources. Snohomish County (SERS) is one looking at purchasing a snowcat type vehicle, the broadcasters at West Tiger Mtn. are also discussing ideas.

DNR has let a contract for West Tiger Mountain road maintenance. Site users can expect road closures of more than one hour or more for several weeks. Power interruptions may also be necessary.

 

Moved and seconded to adjourn at 11:40 AM.

Respectfully submitted,

Steven Mayes,  Secretary/Treasurer

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