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Acting Chair Harlan Ohlson
called the meeting to order at 0931. Chairman
George Bisso was unable to attend due to a schedule conflict.
Introductions were made around the tables.
DRAFT Minutes of the Mar 12, 2002, meeting were reviewed, corrected, and
approved. As Wiz was also absent, Sec/Treas Loren taped the meeting to
assist preparation of the minutes.
Members and guests in
attendance: 14
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Checking Account
Ending Balance, 4/4/2002 |
$2995.15 |
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Savings Account
Balance, 2/12/2002 |
$849.26 |
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Total
Bank Balance – (all accounts) |
$3,844.41 |
800 MHz IX
Harlan Ohlson reported on WSDOT on-going pursuit of IX, with plots of 45
pairs of freq’s they use. There
may be a BPA tower concern, after 1st considering PCS. Again, the
discussion suggested pre-planned presentations, or even a series of them, that
we can announce ahead of time. A
Nextel presentation is planned for the May 14th meeting.
We must get questions to Steve Leonard by May 1.
The May presentation might precipitate a letter to Congress from our
Group, on what direction we’d like to see Governmental action on in the
future. The concern continues…and
Jerry Noe brought forward the letter sent from Wiztronics for FCC consideration.
Pat Buller talked about the APCO Regional Conference in Phoenix, which
summary suggestions were, that, as many comments as possible are needed.
APCO Project 39 goal is to set some usable receiver standards, and APCO
is pointing toward Public Safety moving to 700 MHz.
Dennis Anderson recapped what FCC is considering in the NPRM.
Steve Leonard reported about a meeting held in the Portland area.
Upgrading receiver standards would be a good thing.
There was an article in Mobile Radio Technology about receivers that
suggest battery life will be sacrificed if more amplification is done in early
stages of the receiver. The biggest
issue remains mixing technologies in the 800 band.
New Motorola gear (MTS 2500) is coming out that has capability for
operation on both 700-800 MHz. Again,
the suggestion is “proposals” are needed, not just rhetoric.
Proposals need to address all parties concerns.
Should WWCIC take a position? Date
sensitivity is an issue, and the significance of “Line A” in the NW United
States. Several other ideas were discussed, and Harlan, George, Wiz,
and Loren will attempt to work on a proposal, though time is short.
Proposals must be in by May 6. ((Loren
has a number of articles, from various sources discussing the issues, and some
examples of others’ responses to the Nextel ‘white paper’, if anyone
should like to review or make copies of them.))
(OPEN)
700 MHz Planning
Meetings
The web sites are www.region43.org,
and www.region35.org, respectively.
Planning activities are happening, and regular meetings are on-going.
Per Pat Buller, Washington is about in the middle of the process, as
compared to some other states. Contact
Jon “Wiz” Wiswell, Pat Buller or Kevin Kearns for more info. (OPEN)
Joint Meeting 2002
There was brief discussion about WCTC.
Canada will host this year, as last year was at Sudden Valley.
Suggested topics and questions should be flowing in.
Several were mentioned:
1.)
Cross-border testing and license issues.
One application Jerry Noe put in was rejected when 150 watts was changed
to1500. Better coordination with
Canada is desired, with some way to proof what goes back and forth.
Willingness to accept locally prepared paperwork, or back-up copies seem
like a way mistakes could be minimized. Is
there a different point of view from Canada?
The greatest Canadian spectrum saturation is in the greater Vancouver
area, and further discussion ensued on specific problems encountered.
Similar issues seem common along other areas near-border, such as
Chicago, and Detroit, where high power is used on both sides.
2.)
What is the process for license filings: FCC and Canada?
Are there common “hard” areas, or “kinks” that could be avoided?
Knowing about some “red flags” that stall or interrupt the process or
that the licensing agencies get ‘nervous’ about would be helpful.
3.)
When will Canadian 700 MHz TV shut down to allow US 700 MHz Public Safety
and communication systems? Even if FCC licensed them, the TV would cover them.
Loren will continue work on
contacting counterparts, and gather questions or subject issues, as they are
sent in. Keith Bandy is the WCTC
contact. As soon as anything
significant is received, Loren will forward the information to the group, by
e-mail. (OPEN)
WWCIC web site
Alan Robinson updated the web-site Officer’s page, and will be the
e-mail contact, if a person wishes to send info or ask questions of the
organization, as shown in multiple places on various pages of the WWCIC site.
The Constitution and By-laws shown on the web page is NOT entirely
correct, as some of the material is not fully updated.
Some omissions and errors exist. Alan
has that particular page turned off temporarily, and Loren is working on the
changes. (The changes, additions, and corrections were all
membership-approved long ago, but the correct version didn’t get dispersed)
The domain name question that Alan had gotten some solicitation about
will remain as it is. A vote was
taken, and no other names will be considered than “wwcic.org”.
(OPEN)
Technical Seminars at
meetings
There is continuing interest in the
“seminars”, that were proposed some time ago, to be presented at our
meetings. Wiz did one previously on
trunked radio technology. Steve
Leonard will do one in May 2002, about Nextel, and IDEN technology.
Perhaps one could cover the EAS (Emergency Alert System), with a
description and explanation. Another
potential is on ‘the RF environment’. Possibly
a WWCIC subsidy of a seminar was mentioned.
Mark McDermott told us SERS is in process of getting RF Institute for
certification classes. A possible
2-day class, possibility to incorporate with a monthly meeting, or on a Mon or
Wed, with late summer as possible timeframes?
Pat Buller mentioned that he had attended a presentation about “Road
Rage” done by WSP. Frequency
coordination, tower climbing and safety, RF Exposure, and tracking devices for
RF exposure were all mentioned. Jack
Manon represents MARDA, a certified device for quantifying RF exposure. Loren may poll the members further on more possible
topics. There will be more
discussion. (OPEN)
WWCIC Bank Accounts
Membership Dues
will continue at $20/year.
XM Radio
George Bisso was not available to
continue the discussion, and we will look forward to his return next month.
High power fill-in sites exist. Can
licenses be a clue for locations?
No new business was brought forward
FCC
Dennis Anderson spoke about E911, phases 1 and 2.
There was concern for why the process is moving so slowly.
Waivers were granted up until 10/1/2001, and then the final date now
moved out past 12/2005. FCC has hired Dale N. Hatfield to get it moving along.
After conclusion of investigations, a report is to be forthcoming.
Most FCC documents can be found on FCC’s website www.fcc.gov.
If you would like help with documents, or like to know how to get hard
copy, please contact Dennis.
Cell phones from Motorola
with face recognition, GPS in a cell phone, flashing antennas, and other new
features that would require users to get new phones were subjects discussed.
“Capitalism at work”. Chuck
Z talked about the CTIA show, where new handsets were the buzz.
He has a new appreciation for telecom infrastructure in urban areas, as
some in the rural are pretty primitive, as compared to our usual expectation in
the urban NW. City of Tacoma is
using some distribution automation equipment, but it is having trouble being
“choked up” due to so much utilization of the 930 MHz unlicensed
spread-spectrum technologies. George
Bisso is the key to speak to our board member Mayes situation.
No action until we hear from George.
The meeting adjourned at 10:45. Thanks to everyone for your interest and support for WWCIC
Loren H. Postma
Secretary/Treasurer