Meeting Minutes for March 12, 2002
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Chairman George Bisso called the meeting to order at 0933. Introductions were made around the tables. DRAFT Minutes of the Feb 12, 2002, meeting were reviewed, and approved.
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800 MHz IX
Harlan Ohlson reported that WSDOT was getting good cooperation from
Nextel, working with Steve Leonard, on problems in the Seattle area, near
Spokane St. The FCC mentioned an
unidentified interference problem, Dodge Ridge area, at 868.9750 MHz.
On-channel IX, a data control channel.
They are planning to go out with Harlan shortly after the meeting.
That’s fast service! George
again suggested pre-planned
presentations, or even a series of them, that our group can announce ahead of
time. A Nextel presentation is planned for the May 14th
meeting. We must get questions
to Steve Leonard by May 1. The
May presentation might precipitate a letter to Congress from our Group, on what
direction we’d like to see Governmental action on in the future.
The concern continues… ((Loren
has a number of articles, from various sources discussing the issues, and some
examples of others’ responses to the Nextel ‘white paper’, if anyone
should like to review or make copies of them.))
(OPEN)
700 MHz Planning
Meetings
The web sites are www.region43.org,
and www.region35.org, respectively.
Planning activities are happening, and regular meetings are on-going.
Contact Jon “Wiz” Wiswell, Pat Buller or Kevin Kearns for more info.
((The easy way is just go highlight the names from the headers of the
e-mail you regularly get from WWCIC, and copy/paste into your new message.
Loren “knows” you are all pros at e-mail, and he keeps all the
addresses right up-to-date in the master address database he maintains.
It’s a lot easier than trying to catch your contact of choice on the
phone, or dealing with the ‘ever-present voice-mail’ we all love so well.
Hey, it’s really not that bad…))
(OPEN)
Joint Meeting 2002
There was brief discussion about WCTC.
Canada would normally host this year, as last year was at Sudden Valley.
Suggested topics and questions should be flowing in.
Several were mentioned:
1.)
Cross-border testing and license issues.
One application Jerry Noe put in was rejected when 150 watts was changed
to1500. Better coordination with
Canada is desired, with some way to proof what goes back and forth.
Willingness to accept locally prepared paperwork, or back-up copies seem
like a way mistakes could be minimized. Is
there a different point of view from Canada?
The greatest Canadian spectrum saturation is in the greater Vancouver
area, and further discussion ensued on specific problems encountered.
Similar issues seem common along other areas near-border, such as
Chicago, and Detroit, where high power is used on both sides.
2.)
What is the process for license filings: FCC and Canada?
Are there common “hard” areas, or “kinks” that could be avoided?
Knowing about some “red flags” that stall or interrupt the process or
that the licensing agencies get ‘nervous’ about would be helpful.
3.)
When will Canadian 700 MHz TV shut down to allow US 700 MHz Public Safety
and communication systems? Even if FCC licensed them, the TV would cover them.
Loren will continue work on
contacting counterparts from last year’s list, and gather questions or subject
issues. (OPEN)
WWCIC web site
Alan Robinson updated the web-site Officer’s page, and will be the
e-mail contact, if a person wishes to send info or ask questions of the
organization, as shown in multiple places on various pages of the WWCIC site.
The Constitution and By-laws shown on the web page is NOT entirely
correct. Some omissions and
errors exist. Loren is working with
Alan to get that particular page turned off temporarily, and the appropriate
changes made. The changes,
additions, and corrections were all membership-approved long ago, but the
correct version didn’t get dispersed. (OPEN)
Technical Seminars at
meetings
There is continuing interest in the
“seminars”, that were proposed some time ago, to be presented at our
meetings. Wiz did one previously on
trunked radio technology. Steve
Leonard will do one in May 2002, about Nextel.
Perhaps one could cover the EAS (Emergency Alert System), with a
description and explanation. Another potential is on ‘the RF environment’.
Possibly a WWCIC subsidy of a seminar was mentioned.
Mark McDermott told us SERS is in process of getting RF Institute for
certification classes. A possible
2-day class, possibility to incorporate with a monthly meeting, or on a Mon or
Wed, with late summer as possible timeframes?
Ideas flowed, and Loren may poll the members further on more possible
topics. There will be more
discussion. (OPEN)
WWCIC Bank Accounts
The signature card
for accounts at the bank we have long used at Totem Lake, the US Bank, has been
re-done. Authorized signers are
Loren, George and Wiz. An annual
budget was discussed, and a suggestion was made to split out the fees for the
web site Domain name, and the Hosting for the web site.
Loren needs to discuss with Alan what is possible.
The non-profit status for WWCIC was checked with IRS.
No tax return or any other documents need be filed unless our funds
exceed $25,000. Members, we have
lots of room there so, “no worries, Mate”.
Membership Dues will continue at $20/year.
XM Radio George Bisso continued discussion begun last month about the potential for interference posed by new fill-in sites for gaps in the satellite coverage of XM radio. XM and Cyrus are competitors in this new business arena. There are concerns for IX in the 2.4 GHz spread-spectrum areas, a new high power site in Everett not yet started up, sites planned for Cougar Mt, and others. Local experts such as Hatfield and Dawson have not been involved, and the issue could be a national one. There are at least 6 other sites in the NW, but not specific locations known. Other radio system users should know where sites are, as potential hazards for people. As a general comment, not particular to any one technology, Harlan Ohlson promoted that there should be “more sites and less power used”, as good practice toward reducing interference.
No new business was brought forward
FCC
Dennis Anderson spoke about problems encountered during the Salt Lake
City Olympics. The committee took
more authority than it really had, with some foreign radio users appearing on
frequencies reserved for the US government.
Secret Service was “unhappy”. Several
enforcement items were announced. A warning was mentioned about upkeep of flashing beacons and
obstruction lighting on towers, with enforcement actions taken against some
non-compliance. Make sure you know
what YOUR towers are doing. The
IEEE Journal has some interesting articles about games on cell phones.
Most of the “high powered” cell phones, previously discussed at our
meetings, are coming from outside the US, so no opportunity for type acceptance
or declaring them unusable. Most
FCC documents can be found on FCC’s website www.fcc.gov.
If you would like help with documents, or like to know how to get hard
copy, please contact Dennis.
George talked about
unlicensed radio. FCC ‘goes
looking’ if interference to some licensed service is reported. They warn first, and sometimes take along a “3rd
party” capable of enforcing any local laws.
Often the equipment used is found to be stolen, and if previously
reported as such, is confiscated, which helps in elimination of such
interference.
Mark McDermott mentioned
some SERS buildings are to arrive in about 3 weeks.
The meeting adjourned at
11:04. Thanks to everyone for your
interest and support for WWCIC.
Loren H. Postma
Secretary/Treasurer