Web Page: www.wwcic.org
Information Line Phone Number: 425-820-6271
Chairman
George Bisso called the meeting to order at 0936.
Introductions were made around the tables. DRAFT Minutes of the Dec 10, 2002, meeting were reviewed and
approved. Yes, they were really
short! Again, thanks for the
wonderful Seasonal Lunch provided. All
who attended, as well as quite a few WSP staff around at the right time, enjoyed
it. Members and guests in attendance today: 16, but only 15 signed in.
(I missed Don Jones-sorry-LP) I can’t remember whom I forgot…and I
didn’t pick it up off the tape. Sorry.
Please be sure to sign in, as your Sec/Treas looks at that info each time
preparing the minutes, to get the most current member information.
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$3121.15 |
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Savings Account Balance |
$854.16 |
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Bank Balance – (all accounts) |
$3,975.31 |
800 MHz IX
Discussion continues regarding the 800 MHz proposals.
Jerry Noe reported the site in Bellingham, at the YMCA, is not
interfering as much as the one at St Jo hospital. No clear picture of why the difference. Nextel has not moved to 900 yet in the area (?).
Unfortunately, Steve Leonard was not present to ask about it.
The collection of articles collected by Loren, about 800 MHz issues, is
available for perusal at each meeting. ((The
collection is substantial, and everyone is encouraged to review each month.
Please come early, or stay after.))
(OPEN)
700 MHz Planning
Meetings
No New information. The web
sites are www.region43.org for Washington
State, and www.region35.org, for Oregon,
respectively. Contact Jon “Wiz”
Wiswell, Pat Buller or Kevin Kearns for more info. Meeting schedules and past meeting minutes are on their web
sites. Be sure to check there, for
the latest information. (OPEN)
WWCIC web site
No new issues. (ALWAYS
OPEN)
Technical Seminars at
meetings
Discussion centered on the idea for
45-50 min sessions, possibly every other month, after the business meeting.
A break for refreshments and the presenter to set up, then proceed.
The room can be available until 1300, if needed, but it was concluded
most attendees couldn’t stay past noon. Keep
the focus on IX issues, as that is our mission.
A possibility for the March meeting may be a presentation on BDA’s, as
Kim Torp-Pedersen has a contact w/ TXR or Antenna Specialties.
Also possible for May, could be someone from Larson Antennas.
A committee was formed, consisting of Pat Buller, Harlan Ohlson, and
George Bisso, along w/ “member-at-large” Kim Torp-Pedersen, to work on the
programs for future technical presentations.
Jerry Noe may have something from PAR radio for later on.
Loren mentioned that he sends all the minutes along to IECIC, and if they
are interested in attending any of our tech sessions, they are informed.
Loren also reviewed the last Nov 12, 2002, minutes from IECIC.
(OPEN)
XM Radio
Per George, Sirius has some financial challenge, and borrowed
$450 M. Sirius has been pretty
quiet lately, and also may have some $ trouble.
(OPEN)
Planning
for WWCIC/WCTC Joint meeting 2003 George contacted Semiahmoo Resort in
Blaine, about space, costs and food. He
hasn’t gotten anything further from them, but did send e-mail, and expects to
hear from Valerie. The price should
be about $20. Loren will contact
Keith Bandy about focusing in on the date in the second week of June. It will likely be either June 10, 11, or 12.
A vote was taken, and unanimous approval was made to declare Semiahmoo as
the selected location for 2003. Kris
McGowan and Jayson Clairmont had previously agreed to help w/ arrangements.
We should also begin to develop our ideas for discussion content.
Forward questions or concerns to the Officers, or bring them to the
meetings. Check your calendars for
any potential conflicts, and as a late
breaking development, it appears that June
11, Wednesday,
will work for the WCTC group. We
will likely vote on it at the Feb meeting.
(OPEN)
APCO
report or news Pat Buller announced the Western Regional APCO
Conference is Feb 10-14, 2003, in Las Vegas.
He has a copy of the program. Also,
the 2004 Regional conference will be in Spokane, WA.
Contact Pat for more APCO-related details. APCO has a lot if information on their web site, at www.apcointl.org/.
The web site for the Western Regional conference is www.NVAPCO.org.
(OPEN)
Date
for the Nov 2003 meeting
What about the conflict for date of the November
WWCIC meeting? Oh, you have a
Holiday on November 11, and aren’t going to show up at the WWCIC?
Well, the subject was discussed, and after due consideration, a vote
decided to hold the month’s meeting on WEDNESDAY,
Nov 12, 2003. Your group in action!
Elections Since, except for Chairman George Bisso, the present slate of Officers’ terms had all expired in Oct 2002, a decision was needed about going forward. After some discussion, a train whistle was heard in the background. Is there a ‘railroad’ nearby? A unanimous vote selected the present Officers to continue serving until the next election. Elections are usually held in Sept or October, with terms running October to October of each year. Only the Chairman has a 2-year term, with all others on one-year terms, as described in the Constitution and By-laws. Hopefully, the group will move onward effectively. Thanks for your confidence in the present slate. Just to make it clear, the Officers and their terms are as follows: Chairman- George Bisso, has a 2-year term, elected in Dec 2001, with term expiring in Oct 2003. Vice Chair- Jon “Wiz” Wiswell, Sec/Treas- Loren Postma, Member-at-Large #1- Steve Mayes, Member-at-Large #2- Harlan Ohlson, FCC Representative- Dennis Anderson. All of the Officer’s terms will expire in Oct 2003. Please think about the future of your WWCIC.
Unlicensed
Spread-Spectrum systems, and Noise Floor Measurements
Pat Buller
talked about how the systems are proliferating, some Engineers have written
papers promoting wide-band systems. Curt
Kyle mentioned noise floor measurements, a topic touched upon often at the
meetings. How can sites be
monitored effectively, and what specifications should be used to keep
measurements consistent? What sites
are of highest interest? Since RF
emissions are a regulated item by FCC, perhaps noise floor measurements should
coincide with RF measurements. Are
there 10-12 key locations in Western WA that should be tracked? Suggestions to set up a noise floor database were mentioned,
but it really comes back to each site’s personal Company records, or
individual technician’s responsibility. There
is no single right way, only something that can be repeated, and use the same
equipment each time, to achieve a relative reading, and see if the site is worse
or better than the last time. Pat
mentioned that until a couple years ago, all the WSP sites had noise floor
records. George commented on
how important it is to keep your own readings, and document how the readings
were made. He has a record of his
sites at 90, 160, 400 MHz, and 2.4 GHz. What
is “acceptable” IX? It
certainly is an issue worthy of concern, and further discussion may reveal other
ideas.
FCC
Mike Rothe spoke for FCC today. There
are continuing telecom and tower issues. A
‘pirate’ was curtailed in Kent, on 97.3 FM.
CB’ers are using linears, and others are failing to inspect their
systems. FCC visits have stopped
quite a number of violations. Tower
lighting and painting continue to be emphasized by FCC, and some companies are
encountering “voluntary contributions” for their violations.
Talk to any of the FCC staff to understand what a “voluntary
contribution” refers to. Most FCC
documents can be found on FCC’s website www.fcc.gov.
If you would like help with documents, please contact Dennis Anderson.
George is starting up
a 406.850 MHz link on Squawk Mt to Capital Peak on 162.475.
The date is pending FCC license approval to turn on.
Meeting adjourned at 1119.
Next meeting is on Feb 11, 2003, again at the WSP District Office
in Bellevue. See the WWCIC web page
for detailed directions to the location. Thanks
to everyone for your interest and support for WWCIC.
Respectfully submitted,
Your most humble
Secretary/Treasurer,
Loren
H. Postma